Monitor Tests Forum

Full Version: Custom Resolution Utility (CRU)
You're currently viewing a stripped down version of our content. View the full version with proper formatting.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950
(12-18-2024 11:53 PM)ToastyX Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-18-2024 07:35 PM)Kapten Wrote: [ -> ]Indeed, the monitor has the latest firmware. It happens on any Hz above 60. I have the options 60, 75, 100, 120 or 240Hz on the monitor in windows display settings but anything other than 60 causes the screen error.

Have the latest GPU driver as well. Even did DDU and installed it again with no luck.
Honestly it sounds like something is wrong with the monitor because this should be plug and play with your GPU, or it could be an issue with the GPU, but I see lots of people complaining about issues with the G95SC. Either contact Samsung support so they can troubleshoot and replace it if necessary, or return the monitor and get a different model.

Yea that's what I figured, had two technicians here before where the first one replaced the motherboards without anything improving and the second one replacing the entire panel. That worked for a while until the monitor went into sleep mode and I woke it up again... I'll contact them again I guess.
Thanks a bunch for trying to help!
First post here , hi all!
I was wondering if someone could help me with the issue I’m having. I have a 4090 and an LG OLED C1 and I’m trying to create a custom ultra wide resolution (3840x1600).
Using cru, I created a DisplayID 1.3 detailed resolution of 3840x1600 and 120hz (CVT standard). Restarted the driver and I was able to select the new resolution. Desktop changed to the new resolution, however I find it impossible to change active signal mode of windows to 3840x1600, it keeps showing 3840x2160. Tried to change gpu scaling settings from Nvidia control panel, list modes and apply in display properties, nothing works. Could you please advise me if I’m doing something wrong or if there’s some bug somewhere ?
Much appreciated
Hello all,
Thank you for this wonderful software and all the good work.

My set-up: Win10 Pro / Nvidia GTX1080 (442.74 / 64bits) / MPC-BE – MadVR / JVC DLA-RS46 (X35).

I am trying to set-up Custom Resolutions 3840x2160 at various frequencies (23, 24, 25, 30, 59, 60). Such resolutions are already available in Windows and NVidia CP, but require optimization to avoid significant drop/repeat frames.

I have tried to use MadVR for this but it does not work as it triggers the “JVC pink bug”, so I have probably no other option than doing it manually with CRU/PCC as explained here, but I need more clarity on it and therefore I am raising questions (sorry if they are stupid, I am quite a newbie…).

What I did so far:
- In CRU, main page, I have deleted all detailed resolutions and standard resolutions, and created an extension block CTA-861 to which I added data blocks HDMI, HDMI 2.0, colorimetry, video capability, HDR static metadata according to https://www.avsforum.com/threads/nvi...tions.3127652/

- With CRU, I then added detailed resolutions within the extension block for 3840x2160 as per above, using the “automatic HDTV” as a start and then going “manual”.

Question 1: So far, is it correct what I did please?

Now I am trying to optimize the detailed resolutions above mentioned. So, starting with the 3840x2160 @23(.976):

- In PCC: input 3840 x 2160 @ 24 / 1.001, 6 decimals, rest is default. It gives me 3960 x 2184 with pixel clock 207.36.

- In CRU, under extension block, and its detailed resolution 3840x2160@23p, I have entered the above as follows: 3960 and 2184 under “total horizontal” and “total vertical” (keeping active vertical and active horizontal unchanged at 3840 and 2160 respectively) and 207.36 under “Pixel clock”. Then restarted the driver.

- Then I read a 23.976 video with MPC-BE / MadVR and after 30 min it says “1 repeat frame every 4.38 minutes”.

- I then calculated the new frequency to aim for:
4.38 min = 4.38 x 60 = 262.8 sec, then 1 / (23.976 x 262.8) = 0.0001587076676 and then (1 – 0. 0001587076676) x 23.976 = 23.97219482 Mhz

- Then in PCC I input 3840 x 2160 and 23.97219482, 6 decimals. It gives: 4016 x 2192 for a pixel clock of 211.028957 MHz.

- Back to CRU under extension block, and its detailed resolution 3840x2160@23p, I have entered the above as follows: 4016 and 2192 under “total horizontal” and “total vertical” (keeping active vertical and active horizontal unchanged at 3840 and 2160 respectively) and 211.028957 under “Pixel clock”. Then restarted the driver.

Question 2: is this correct so far?

- Play again a 23.976 video, it gives 1 frame repeat every 4.40 min or 264 sec, not much of an improvement but now starts the iteration … and the tricky part for me as I might take the wrong numbers:

Calculating again the new frequency to target:
1/ (23.97219482 x 264) = 0.0001580113467

Question 3: on the above am I correct taking the previously calculated frequency and not 23.976?

And then 1 - 0.0001580113467 gives 0.9998419887, and to get to the new frequency I do: 23.97219482 x 0.9998419887 = 23.96840694

Question 4: am I correct here using 23.97219482 and not 23.976?

Then inputing this in PCC 4016 x 2192 and 23.97219482 then iterate with CRU etc.?

Question 5: in PCC, I have to input 4016 x 2192 (and NOT 3840 x 2160) together with 23.97219482 ?

Many thanks to you all
(12-24-2024 11:12 AM)647830 Wrote: [ -> ]Question 3: on the above am I correct taking the previously calculated frequency and not 23.976?

And then 1 - 0.0001580113467 gives 0.9998419887, and to get to the new frequency I do: 23.97219482 x 0.9998419887 = 23.96840694

Question 4: am I correct here using 23.97219482 and not 23.976?

Then inputing this in PCC 4016 x 2192 and 23.97219482 then iterate with CRU etc.?

Question 5: in PCC, I have to input 4016 x 2192 (and NOT 3840 x 2160) together with 23.97219482 ?

Many thanks to you all
I don't have a procedure for what you're doing, so I can't advise on the math, but for the pixel clock calculator, you should only enter the resolution you want, not the totals, and the pixel clock decimal places should be whatever precision you can enter with CRU, which is 2 for EDID and DisplayID 1.3, and 3 for DisplayID 2.0. You can enter a new target refresh rate if that helps with tweaking, but make sure "Rate / 1.001" is unchecked first.

Also in the existing extension block, make sure the resolution you want to tweak doesn't exist in the TV resolutions and HDMI data blocks, and when adding a new extension block, you shouldn't need to copy the data blocks from the first extension block. You only need the data blocks in the first extension block. You don't really need to delete all the resolutions either, but you can if you don't want them. Just make sure to also check the existing extension block.

One thing to note about detailed resolutions is EDID detailed resolutions (in the main window and CTA-861 extension blocks) have front porch limits, so "Automatic HDTV" for 24/25/50 Hz will use CVT-RB instead of the expected CTA-861 standard. DisplayID extension blocks don't have that limitation, and DisplayID 2.0 will give you 3 decimal places, which might help with hitting your target refresh rate if the GPU can handle that precision. You can also try "Native HDTV" to use the lower front porch for 60 Hz, which gives you more headroom to play with the totals.
(12-23-2024 06:25 PM)charpour Wrote: [ -> ]First post here , hi all!
I was wondering if someone could help me with the issue I’m having. I have a 4090 and an LG OLED C1 and I’m trying to create a custom ultra wide resolution (3840x1600).
Using cru, I created a DisplayID 1.3 detailed resolution of 3840x1600 and 120hz (CVT standard). Restarted the driver and I was able to select the new resolution. Desktop changed to the new resolution, however I find it impossible to change active signal mode of windows to 3840x1600, it keeps showing 3840x2160. Tried to change gpu scaling settings from Nvidia control panel, list modes and apply in display properties, nothing works. Could you please advise me if I’m doing something wrong or if there’s some bug somewhere ?
Much appreciated
Are you using CVT or CVT-RB? You should be using CVT-RB. If scaling is set to display in the NVIDIA control panel, then any resolution @ refresh rate listed in CRU is supposed to be sent to the display. If not, then it's an NVIDIA driver bug. The regular Windows display settings will always try to scale, so you have to go into the display adapter properties and list all modes, or use the NVIDIA control panel to change the resolution, but you mentioned this already.
Hi, first post here. I've used CRU in the past to get some more out of some laptop monitors I've had. I'm trying now on a desktop screen (HyperX Armada 25). Default clock is 240hz and I'm unable to even go 1 hz above that. The screen displays a message that the input signal is out of range. I'm wondering if this is something that the firmware is blocking since I find that hard to believe, so maybe there is nothing I can do, but hoping there might be something I can try?

Thanks.
(12-26-2024 05:18 PM)ditchmagnet Wrote: [ -> ]Hi, first post here. I've used CRU in the past to get some more out of some laptop monitors I've had. I'm trying now on a desktop screen (HyperX Armada 25). Default clock is 240hz and I'm unable to even go 1 hz above that. The screen displays a message that the input signal is out of range. I'm wondering if this is something that the firmware is blocking since I find that hard to believe, so maybe there is nothing I can do, but hoping there might be something I can try?
It's common for firmware to block higher refresh rates, especially if the monitor already supports high refresh rates. Laptop screens are different because they normally don't have scalers, so there is often nothing blocking higher refresh rates from being sent to the panel, but the panel controller can't always handle higher refresh rates, and you're still limited by the bandwidth of the interface.
(12-26-2024 05:36 PM)ToastyX Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-26-2024 05:18 PM)ditchmagnet Wrote: [ -> ]Hi, first post here. I've used CRU in the past to get some more out of some laptop monitors I've had. I'm trying now on a desktop screen (HyperX Armada 25). Default clock is 240hz and I'm unable to even go 1 hz above that. The screen displays a message that the input signal is out of range. I'm wondering if this is something that the firmware is blocking since I find that hard to believe, so maybe there is nothing I can do, but hoping there might be something I can try?
It's common for firmware to block higher refresh rates, especially if the monitor already supports high refresh rates. Laptop screens are different because they normally don't have scalers, so there is often nothing blocking higher refresh rates from being sent to the panel, but the panel controller can't always handle higher refresh rates, and you're still limited by the bandwidth of the interface.

ok, so I guess I'm out of luck on this display. Thanks for responding, and thanks for all your work!
Hello there! hoping for some help as I do struggle figuring out whats going on here.

I am trying to make freesync work on a BenQ XL2546, the monitor is hooked via HDMI 2.0 to a laptop which has an iGPU (VEGA Ryzen 5000 series) and does recognize the monitor as a VRR capable monitor.

However when enabling VRR it will black screen on any game or application, it will work fine if VRR is disabled on the AMD driver, furthermore it did work for a random and brief time (around 2 hours) until I decided to launch CS2, which then completely broke it again.

Not sure if I am missing something. Thanks for reading! Smile
(12-28-2024 12:37 AM)dbbenq Wrote: [ -> ]Hello there! hoping for some help as I do struggle figuring out whats going on here.

I am trying to make freesync work on a BenQ XL2546, the monitor is hooked via HDMI 2.0 to a laptop which has an iGPU (VEGA Ryzen 5000 series) and does recognize the monitor as a VRR capable monitor.

However when enabling VRR it will black screen on any game or application, it will work fine if VRR is disabled on the AMD driver, furthermore it did work for a random and brief time (around 2 hours) until I decided to launch CS2, which then completely broke it again.

Not sure if I am missing something. Thanks for reading! Smile
Is that happening only on the laptop or does it work fine on other systems? Try unplugging the monitor's power for a minute to reset it. If that works but then it happens again, the monitor is defective.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710 711 712 713 714 715 716 717 718 719 720 721 722 723 724 725 726 727 728 729 730 731 732 733 734 735 736 737 738 739 740 741 742 743 744 745 746 747 748 749 750 751 752 753 754 755 756 757 758 759 760 761 762 763 764 765 766 767 768 769 770 771 772 773 774 775 776 777 778 779 780 781 782 783 784 785 786 787 788 789 790 791 792 793 794 795 796 797 798 799 800 801 802 803 804 805 806 807 808 809 810 811 812 813 814 815 816 817 818 819 820 821 822 823 824 825 826 827 828 829 830 831 832 833 834 835 836 837 838 839 840 841 842 843 844 845 846 847 848 849 850 851 852 853 854 855 856 857 858 859 860 861 862 863 864 865 866 867 868 869 870 871 872 873 874 875 876 877 878 879 880 881 882 883 884 885 886 887 888 889 890 891 892 893 894 895 896 897 898 899 900 901 902 903 904 905 906 907 908 909 910 911 912 913 914 915 916 917 918 919 920 921 922 923 924 925 926 927 928 929 930 931 932 933 934 935 936 937 938 939 940 941 942 943 944 945 946 947 948 949 950
Reference URL's