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Hello, I'm facing a quite annoying problem with my LG TV. By some matter when I'm running on fullscreen a game that uses DX10 or DX11, the image gets interlaced and there is no way I know to disable that (it only happens in fullscreen mode).

Running Intel HD Control Panel on a second monitor I noticed that the frequency changes when going fullscreen from 60p Hz to 59i Hz, even when the game says it's at 60Hz.

This effect doesn't happens if the game uses DX9 or less.

Have tried already all kind of notebooks and computers and they were having all the same issue with this TV and DX10/11.

The only way I know to overcome the problem right now:
Sometimes I can manage to fix it with this hacky trick.. I've been fiddling around with the Intel Control Panel. I started a DX11 game which was switching to Interlaced mode, then I minimized the game, switched to 60p Hz mode in the Intel Control Panel, and then to 50p Hz mode. Now Intel Control Panel shows me a countdown where I should press "OK" to keep the current mode, but I ignore it and switch to the game. When the game goes fullscreen, the 59i Hz mode is set again. But then the times times out and switches back to 60p Hz mode while the game is still in full screen mode and voilá. The game is running in Non-interlaced mode.

I don't really need the interlaced modes, so I was just asking myself if it's possible to disable ALL interlaced resolutions from EDID to force it to use allways Non-Interlaced modes?

I was trying to achieve that with CRU, but I couldn't find the interlaced modes as they are in some "EIA/CEA-861 Information" section wich I cannot edit, or just don't know how to edit.

Does somebody know how to disable Interlaced modes for HDMI or some EDID patch to disable it?

Here the MonInfo extract:

Code:

Monitor

  Model name............... LG TV

  Manufacturer............. LGE

  Plug and Play ID......... GSM0001

  Serial number............ n/a

  Manufacture date......... 2013, ISO week 1

  Filter driver............ None

  -------------------------

  EDID revision............ 1.3

  Input signal type........ Digital

  Color bit depth.......... Undefined

  Display type............. RGB color

  Screen size.............. 1600 x 900 mm (72.3 in)

  Power management......... Not supported

  Extension blocs.......... 1 (CEA-EXT)

  -------------------------

  DDC/CI................... Not supported

Color characteristics

  Default color space...... Non-sRGB

  Display gamma............ 2.20

  Red chromaticity......... Rx 0.640 - Ry 0.330

  Green chromaticity....... Gx 0.300 - Gy 0.600

  Blue chromaticity........ Bx 0.150 - By 0.060

  White point (default).... Wx 0.313 - Wy 0.329

  Additional descriptors... None

Timing characteristics

  Horizontal scan range.... 30-83kHz

  Vertical scan range...... 58-62Hz

  Video bandwidth.......... 160MHz

  CVT standard............. Not supported

  GTF standard............. Not supported

  Additional descriptors... None

  Preferred timing......... Yes

  Native/preferred timing.. 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)

    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

  Detailed timing #1....... 1360x768p at 60Hz (16:9)

    Modeline............... "1360x768" 85.500 1360 1424 1536 1792 768 771 777 795 +hsync +vsync

Standard timings supported

     720 x  400p at  70Hz - IBM VGA

     640 x  480p at  60Hz - IBM VGA

     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA

    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA

     640 x  480p at  60Hz - VESA STD

     800 x  600p at  60Hz - VESA STD

    1024 x  768p at  60Hz - VESA STD

    1152 x  864p at  60Hz - VESA STD

    1280 x 1024p at  60Hz - VESA STD

EIA/CEA-861 Information

  Revision number.......... 3

  IT underscan............. Supported

  Basic audio.............. Supported

  YCbCr 4:4:4.............. Supported

  YCbCr 4:2:2.............. Supported

  Native formats........... 1

  Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)

    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 74.250 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1094 1124 interlace +hsync +vsync

  Detailed timing #2....... 1280x720p at 60Hz (16:9)

    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1390 1430 1650 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

  Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)

    Modeline............... "1920x1080" 148.500 1920 2008 2052 2200 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync

  Detailed timing #4....... 1280x720p at 50Hz (16:9)

    Modeline............... "1280x720" 74.250 1280 1720 1760 1980 720 725 730 750 +hsync +vsync

CE video identifiers (VICs) - timing/formats supported

    1920 x 1080p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)

    1920 x 1080p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1) [Native]

    1280 x  720p at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)

    1280 x  720p at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)

    1920 x 1080i at  60Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)

    1920 x 1080i at  50Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)

     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (16:9, 32:27)

     720 x  480p at  60Hz - EDTV (4:3, 8:9)

     720 x  576p at  50Hz - EDTV (16:9, 64:45)

    1920 x 1080p at  24Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)

    1920 x 1080p at  25Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)

    1920 x 1080p at  30Hz - HDTV (16:9, 1:1)

     720 x  576i at  50Hz - Doublescan (4:3, 16:15)

     640 x  480p at  60Hz - Default (4:3, 1:1)

    NB: NTSC refresh rate = (Hz*1000)/1001

CE audio data (formats supported)

  AC-3    6-channel,  640k max. bit rate at 32/44/48 kHz

  LPCM    2-channel, 16/20/24 bit depths at 32/44/48/96/192 kHz

CE vendor specific data (VSDB)

  IEEE registration number. 0x000C03

  CEC physical address..... 1.0.0.0

  Supports AI (ACP, ISRC).. Yes

  Supports 48bpp........... No

  Supports 36bpp........... No

  Supports 30bpp........... No

  Supports YCbCr 4:4:4..... No

  Supports dual-link DVI... No

  Maximum TMDS clock....... 150MHz

Report information

  Date generated........... 08/01/2015

  Software revision........ 2.60.0.972

  Data source.............. Real-time 0x0031

  Operating system......... 6.2.9200.2

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Hope there is something that could be done. Greetings.

P.D: Just noticed that in the "EIA/CEA-861 Information" section there is first the Interlaced 1080 resolution...
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
and..
Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Would it be possible to somehow swap them? Not sure if that would help, but maybe it just detects the interlaced 1080 first.

(01-08-2015 01:11 AM)rkk Wrote: [ -> ]I don't really need the interlaced modes, so I was just asking myself if it's possible to disable ALL interlaced resolutions from EDID to force it to use allways Non-Interlaced modes?

Yes, but Intel doesn't support EDID overrides.

(01-08-2015 01:11 AM)rkk Wrote: [ -> ]I was trying to achieve that with CRU, but I couldn't find the interlaced modes as they are in some "EIA/CEA-861 Information" section wich I cannot edit, or just don't know how to edit.

That's the extension block. If Intel supported EDID overrides, you could use CRU to disable the extension block (which also disables audio), or you could import the hdmi-audio.dat file to include audio support without any other resolutions.

(01-08-2015 01:11 AM)rkk Wrote: [ -> ]P.D: Just noticed that in the "EIA/CEA-861 Information" section there is first the Interlaced 1080 resolution...
Detailed timing #1....... 1920x1080i at 60Hz (16:9)
and..
Detailed timing #3....... 1920x1080p at 60Hz (16:9)
Would it be possible to somehow swap them? Not sure if that would help, but maybe it just detects the interlaced 1080 first.

The TV already defines 1920x1080p @ 60 Hz as the native/preferred timing. That's supposed to take precedence.

rkk

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